nouveau RC qui fait l'éffet du canna

[frogx]

aparement il y aurrais une nouvelle substance (légale???) chimique qui ferais le même éffet que de la bonne beuh.

info ou arnaque????

le lien:

http://bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=406098

[Bablestrudel]

C'est tout à fait possible à mon avis mais moi je cautionne pas trop ce genre de chose, prenons l'exemple du pavot qui se transforme en opium puis en morphine puis en héro... Donc à ne pas laisser dans le mains de n'importe qui à mon avis

[lord_preston]

Il y a le "Spice" qui est très polemiqué en allemagne actuellement par ex.

Parcontre le prix c le même que la zeb

[frogx]

rien à voir avec le spice, ce n'est pas un thc like classique, c'est un RC, un Research Chemical, autrement dit une nouvelle drogue.

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/res ... hems.shtml

[jogo]

j'aime pas l'alcool déjà donc je préfére rester avec ma bonne zeb

[bruno]

le canna on connait les effets à long terme
ça non
alors prudence

on en trouve où :-))

[frogx]

+1 avec bruno, avec les RC on peut se retrouvé avec nimporte quoi 10 ou 30 ans plus tard, on en sais rien, on peut s'en procuré légalement sur des shop sur le net, mais ce genre de friandise est des fois intercepté par les doines, même si c'est légal.

[HortiPro]

je n'ai que 2 mots a dire.

Vegetal powaaaaa!

[lord_preston]

Le Spice est 100% vegetal.

Sinon très d'accord avec bruno

[bruno]

pis c'est encore des machins chimiques
honnêtement ça ne vaudra jamais la bonne beuh du jardin
bien séchée au grenier
craquante sous le doigt
goutu et odorante
àh rah lovely

[jogo]

pis c'est encore des machins chimiques
honnêtement ça ne vaudra jamais la bonne beuh du jardin
bien séchée au grenier
craquante sous le doigt
goutu et odorante
àh rah lovely

+1000

[hempmajor]

Malgré que ce produit a l'air bien je préfére aussi attendre les effets a long termes voir si sa ne provoque pas plus de dépendance que le canna parce que si je me retrouve dix ans plus tard avec des oreilles de gremlins a cause de ce rc bah je serais pas super heureux puis faut aussi voir combien sa coute ^^

[tomtome II]

j'ai trouvé ces infos sur le RC, comme je sais pas trop si je peux mettre le lien vers le site ici (vu qu'on peut s'en procurer directement dessus), je préfère faire un copier coller du contenu ^^

j'essayerai peut-être de m'en procurer début janvier pour tester, j'attends d'abord de savoir si le site est sérieux xD

History

JWH-018, also known as 1-pentyl-3-naphthoylindole, is just one of a series of several hundred JWH-xxx chemicals developed over the last few years by John W. Huffman (JWH) and his research associates at Clemson University in the USA. His team’s primary focus is the synthesis of analogues and metabolites of THC (the active ingredient in marijuana), also known as cannabinoids.

JWH-018 is covered by the following US patents: 7241799 and 6900236

Several grams of JWH-018
Appearance

JWH-018 is a brown, lumpy, sticky compound. When sliced and then scrapped into small amounts, it can become a lighter brown colour.
Potency

Each of the JWH chemicals have varying effects on the CB1 and CB2 receptors, however JWH-018 has been singled out by researchers (and recreational users) as one which possesses qualities quite similar to THC.

This report written by Huffman states that JWH-018 has approximately five times greater affinity for the CP1 receptor than THC, and is more potent than THC in humans/animals.
Administration and Dosage

Smoked: 0.5mg to 3mg (Vaporized appears to be a better method than burning)
Insufflated: Very weak, and probably very difficult as the compound is not a powder - not recommended
Oral: 3mg to 10mg (new reports indicate it may take as long as 3 to 4 hours for the onset of any effects when taken orally)

Some anecdotal research indicates consuming amounts greater than these can cause anxiety, not unlike smoking too much marijuana. Other research indicates that because JWH-018 shares similar properties to THC, it would be very difficult to overdose, unlike some other cannabinoids, such as HU-210, which may be fatal when consumed in large amounts. Regardless, caution should be observed when measuring dosages.

When consumed, JWH-018 has effects similar to THC lasting for 3-5 hours duration. When compared to CP 55,940, which has an effect duration of 10 to 18 hours, this could be considered a definite plus by many recreational users. Smoking JWH-018 differs from smoking THC in that it produces a peak effect almost instantaneously, unlike the 10-15 minute delay with cannabis/THC as it is not metabolized to a more active compound (THC is metabolized to the more active 11-hydroxy THC). Re-dosing is possible upon comedown, although there is not enough research to indicate if there are any tolerance issues.

It is speculated, but not yet proven, that JWH-018 would not be detected by standard cannabinoid drug tests.

Please observe caution when testing JWH-018! The dosages above are not necessarily accurate, further, there may be yet unknown complications caused by ingesting this compound. If you are not equipped with high quality, single mg accuracy, scales, we do not recommend you test this compound.
Comparisons To Other Synthetic Cannabinoids

Further input is required. Other known recreational cannabinoids include WIN 55,210, HU-210 and CP 55,940. There are also some discussions of JWH-073 and JWH-081 for recreational use although the differences between them and JWH-018 are noted to be subtle.

JWH-018 is considerably more stable and easier to store than CP55,940, which degrades (and loses potency) at temperatures above -20C, whilst JWH-018 does not appear to degrade at room temperature.
Therapeutic Uses

From Wikipedia:

JWH-018 (1-Pentyl-3-(1-Naphthoyl)Indole) is an analgesic drug from the aminoalkylindole family, which acts as a cannabinoid agonist at both the CB1 and CB2 receptors, with some selectivity for CB2. It produces effects in animals very similar to those of THC itself, but with a shorter duration of action, and is currently being researched as a potential analgesic to be administered by transdermal patch.

So can we assume that there may be uses for this drug besides obvious recreational purposes? Perhaps as a potential alternate for medical marijuana for Alzheimer’s patients. Or as a trans-dermal patch for AIDS or chemotherapy patients who suffer from nausea and are unable to take THC in pill form.
Legality

JWH-018 is believed to be legal in all countries at this time. However some countries’ analogue laws may apply to JWH-018, in certain circumstances.
Recent Discussions

* Medicinal use of synthetic cannabinoids (JWH-018, et al)?
* JWH-018 - semi-exp - multiple doses over a few days
* JWH-018 on a leaf
* JWH-015 & JWH-018 legal status

* Out of respect for the good folks at BL forum, we have removed links to their site.
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[killaman]

Malgré que ce produit a l'air bien je préfére aussi attendre les effets a long termes voir si sa ne provoque pas plus de dépendance que le canna [/size]

Et si on te le prouve, tu serais pret à troquer ta zeb contre des cachtons???

[hempmajor]

Pas a troquer mais a tester Mais pour rien au monde je ne changerais une bonne beuh ou un bon shit contre un quelconque rc