Le topic des nouvelles variétés !

[takjoaho]

Ahhhhh la vache Elle a l´air monstrueuse

Puré je savais pas qu´il ont sorti un nouveau strain chez serious, que du bon je pense au vu de la qualité sur les 5 autre dispo depuis long time

Merci pour l´arbre de MNS Marcello

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salut tout le monde
j était en train d observer le tableau "subcool TGA" et j ai une première interrogation
je vois que a partir de son cut "space queen (BCGA ??) [romulanXc99]"

il a tirer de f2 :

la "space bomb"
la "space jiil"

comment a t il fait pour avoir deux F2 différente a partir du meme cut ???
si vous pouvez éclairer ma lanterne !!

[Sorcier]

Les deux ne sont pas des F2, l'une des deux est une création de sa femme d'ailleurs (Mz Jill). L'outcross par contre je ne le connais pas, ces deux hybrides n'ont pas marqué les foules.

[leMarcel]

La Space Jill et la Space Bomb sont bien des F2, en fait c'est simplement car une mère différente a été utilisée pour ces 2 variations.

Par contre le père est dans les deux cas le fameux mâle "Space Dude"

Les différences ? la femelle choisie par Jill pour la Space Jill est celle avec le meilleur rendement, , alors que la femelle choisie par Subcool pour la Space Bomb est la femelle "Tiny Bomb", avec un faible rendement mais une énorme production de résine.

En fait au départ Sub avait lancé 10 graines de Space Queen, il a trouvé 4 femelles :

A)Smallest overall with a funky semi-rooting smell -> pas utilisée car internoeuds trop longs et branches trop fragiles
B) The most resinous, nicknamed Tiny Bomb -> c'est la femelle utilisée pour créer la Space Bomb
C) Best internodal spacing and potency, and largest buds -> c'est la femelle utilisée pour créer la Space Jill
D) Jolly Rancher, because it smelled so much like the cherry candy by that name -> pas utilisée car le gout de cerise diminue avec le curing

si tu veux +d'infos sur la Space Bomb, tu en trouveras par exemple ici : http://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-sc ... -bomb.html

Great things sometimes come in small packages, and this phenotype of Space Jill (Space Queen) is I feel the best Cannabis I have ever smoked. I need give a huge disclaimer: This thing is absolutely the worst yielding plant I have ever grown; it's a double-edged sword. I grow two of these in one pot trying to conserve space and add to my head stash, but I have yet to get more than a jar full off one plant. One trick I employ is to place two plants in one pot, forming more heads to help yield more per square foot. Jill prefers the larger and more normal version we used to breed with, but I love this one. It is simply double coated in raised trichomes. It actually has so much resin that even extremely dry and cured, the weed seams to smolder in a bowl and not want to burn correctly. It is almost like your smoking resin or hash. I love the way this thing just sparkles in the flash.

If you want to know how to find one of these, it's not easy. They are hidden away in the Space Jill seeds. This phenotype is extremely recessive, and then your going to have to keep the runt of the litter. "You were my pills, you were my thrills. You were my hope baby, you were my smoke." Well this plant absolutely dropped the bomb on me because if I had any sanity, I'd toss her and replace with something larger. But to date this is the one that sets me off. This girl has a taste similar to Genius and Apollo, but it's more concentrated and the tart taste is more sour than any diesel I have ever smoked, including sour D and catpiss. It also has an underlying sweet tang that is very pleasant as it rolls across the tongue and the exhale is even very sweet and tart. I have been asked before if this phenotype can be found in Space Jill and I am happy to report it definitely can. Tiny has become legend. Several people have a phenotype that resembles mine, and they describe the same traits.

The lavender coloring in some of these shots is from organics and cooler night temps. If I have her placed away from the A/C unit, she doesn't turn this shade. I can also see just a hint of Romulan from time to time. As if you couldn't tell I like it, it seems to carry a slight hashy spicy taste that is well over shadowed by the sour and sweet. Now here is the other side of the coin: The other version that Jill prefers to call simply C. It has a over whelming Cherry flavor, and a much larger yield. A few friends who recently sampled her for the first time were completely blown away, and one considers it his all time favorite smoke. The only problem with this plant is I always run out of it long before anything else. The largest plant I had grown was well over five feet with at least six heads, and the total dry weight was 40 grams. That same harvest I pulled six zipps off a JC. I sent this to the guy that sent me Apollo-13, and he also couldn't get it to make big fun. But he agreed it's simply so potent so tasty and so unique, he added it to his stash as his #1 personal smoke.

People are always asking if I would breed with this plant. Well to be honest I am positive it's located in the Space Queen f2's. Even though we used the largest and slightly different phenotype to breed with, when you grow out the f2's your going to get a slight variation. The smaller phenotypes that are more resinous, harder buds and a more triangular shape that's closer to the Romulan side of things, as the larger and rounded buds are to me more a Cindy trait. I have a weird theory I will share with you, but it has very little scientific basis and is based more on my observations. It seems when you grow out a lot of seeds, the strain has an infinite amount of potency to be distributed. The larger, leafier females that yield more and grow fastier and easier are NEVER as potent as the smaller strains that seem to put more effort into resin production and less into yield. Therefore these strains are potent as hell, and this is the foundation of how I select my mother plants. There are certainly always exceptions like Jacks Cleaner that is extremely potent and yields well. And there are certainly many others, but take Og kush. I don't grow it, but isn't it a PIA to grow and low yielding? Think of all the super potent extremely resinated strains that don't yield great: G-13, Apollo, Genius, OG Kush and others are all known to be incredibly potent. It's a theory anyway.

[Sorcier]

Ben merde... c'est bien homogène pourtant.
Je reçois le phéno Tiny Bomb en weed d'ici quelques jours, il a été préservé par sub' pour distribution med'. Je ferais un mini smoke report/macros ;o)

[leMarcel]

ah tiens Sub vend aussi du produit fini ?! où vois tu cela ?

ouai n'hésite pas pour le smoke report de la tiny bomb, je serai curieux de lire ça !

tiens comme tu aimes les petites histoires, y'a une polémique autour de la Space Queen de Subcool, ce n'est peut etre pas la "vraie" Space Queen originale de BCGA (Romulan X C99), mais un croisement Space Queen X C99 (Cannadian Seeds Starwlaker)

de même que son fameux mâle "Grimm" qui serait en fait la seule plante à avoir germé dans un pacson de BCGA mix.

ces infos viennent de Flying, qui était devenu très proche de Sunycheba, un ancien membre de TGA (le breeder de la Double Purple Doja et d'autres strains)

copier/coller depuis un topic que tu avais toi même créé (Novembre 2007 )

Be leary of those at Breedbay, I left long long ago for very important reasons. I can tell you what drove me away was the dishonesty that devloped from sub and Jill. They are very untrustworthy and have very poor ethics. I refuse to go in public and start a super drama cause we know how jill is. I am the only person who knows thier dark secret and jill doesnt even know Iknow.

I was pulled aside one day and sub showed me a pack of Cannadian Seeds Starwlaker (SQ x c99) he told me not to tell hill he told me cause she would nt go along with "it". Well I had no idea what he was talking about until they unleashed a pile of SQ crosses that were not actualy SQ. Not to long after Sub had a BCGA mix bag that was sent to cannada to germ. They got one seedling out of 15 seeds and found one male. It then was decided somehow it was a Bros Grimm mix.

I ranted and raved about everything and esp the random male breeding but nobody wanted to hear my words or consider what they were about to do. I at this time was way beyond my last straw so I just bailed silently withoutever speaking to sub or anyone again.Here I was bieng used why they made crap which left me just feeling ultimatly used.

So knowing what I just said bud.. think about all those "Grimm" and "SQ" Crosses they have and push on folks. They flood the market with tons of free bad seeds. they disrespect Vic High and BCGA by calling SPace queen "our" when its not even Space queen. This Really just flat out made me so sick as they destroy the genetic pool and rob hundreds of people.

Comme quoi, c'est jamais tout blanc ou tout noir

La bonne vibes à toi

[Sorcier]

de même que son fameux mâle "Grimm" qui serait en fait la seule plante à avoir germé dans un pacson de BCGA mix.
C'est la seule chose dont je sois sûr

Pour le flaming je le trouves toujours autant pathétique, surtout venant de la part de quelqu'un qui à choisi de bosser avec lui du départ; personne l'a forcé. Ce genre de truc m'horripile en fait.

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deux nouvelles seeds de DNA genetics (ils arrêtes pas d en sortir eux en ce moment !!)



Cataract Kush

DNA Genetics Cataract Kush is the combination of two known winners, LA Confidential & OG Kush. Her cannabis seeds finish in 8-9 weeks & has blankets of crystals! The Cataract Kush looks almost grey-black when cured.
The flavour is LA dominate with the OG Kush coming through in the exhale. The nugs look OG with LA density. This is the perfect combination of these two strains & the high is VERY strong!
The effect is good for pain, eating & sleep disorders. Most describe Catract as a “creeper” high, that keeps on building long after you stop smoking! This strain has been years in the making & is NOT recomended for the light weight smoker!!
DNA Genetics Cataract Kush is above average yields & dense frosty nugs are easily achieved by the novice as well as seasond growers.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/dn ... _1087.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZZ-MwKvbOI[/video]

et la


Kushberry

DNA Genetics Kushberry is the perfect blend of two West Coast flavours. The blueberry male from Oregon was used for his taste and vigour in combination with the fuely, lemon taste of the OG Kush from LA.
The Kushberry is a shorter, stalkier plant, her cannabis seeds produces a decent yield. The exotic flavour of Kush Berry doesn’t rival its strength, she is one of our strongest strains. She is berry good for medicinal use as the Kush Berry relieves pain and helps with sleep and eating disorders.
DNA Genetics Kush Berry is OG Kush Heirloom x Oregon Blueberry, is 30% sativa / 70% indica and has a flowering period of 8-9 weeks. Kush Berry produces yields of 400-500g/m2.


la vache il et vraiment a la mode ce "kush" on le retrouve partout, faudrait peut être qu il arrête de ce copier les uns les autres

voili voilou bonne journée a vous

[DrStrangelove]

Hortilab - Starbud

1ère place ICMag 420 Cup 2009 (catégorie "Breeder Indica") et 1ère placeà la High Times Cannabis Cub 2009 (catégorie Indica)

Disponible en féminisées courant janvier 2010, pour la modique somme d'environ 150€ le pax

Hello *****,

Thank you very much for your interest in our seeds.

Due to some delays, the feminized Starbud seeds are scheduled to be released in january 2010 and will be available thru our website as well as various seed retailers.

We will also add a "newsletter feature" to our website www.hortilab.nl in the very near future, which will keep you uptodate, concerning the releases if you join.

You can find some info on the strain as well as pics of the product here:

http://en.seedfinder.eu/HortiLab_-_Starbud.html

Price for the feminized Starbud seeds will probably be 150 Euro per pack. Ordering seeds can be done by sending cash to our post box. Preorders will be possible in approx 7-14 days.


If there are any questions left, please dont hesitate to email us again.

Thank you very much & kind regards,

Team HortiLab

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pour la modique somme d'environ 150€ le pax

pas cher j en veux quatre moi des pax

[DrStrangelove]

C'est le type de graines que Ninjah donne à manger à ses souris

[Sodome]

Sinon envoyer 150e en cash euh bon ..

[DrStrangelove]

Pour la petite histoire:

Starbud est un clone sélectionné par nos soins à partir d'une lignée de graines reçues d'un cultivateur particulier venant du Midwest aux USA. L'origine exacte est un mystère.

Après avoir fait pousser des centaines de graines et de clones venant de Hollande, d'Autriche, de Suisse, d'Italie, d'Espagen, du Danemark, du Canada et aussi des Etats Unis (ainsi que quelques autres pays) nous savons que la Starbud est une gagnante.
Ca a été confirmé par les juges à la 420 Cup et par les juges du "Berkley Patients Group" à la 22eme Cannabis Cup.

Personnellement, je décrirais le gout de la Starbud comme légèrement 'hashy'; l'odeur est plus subtilement sucrée (dankness ???) mais sent fort et a cet effet 'wow' sur ceux qui la reniflent.

Sachez que celui qui nous a procuré la lignée de graines n'est pas un breeder professionel mais un particulier qui fournit en graines lui meme et ses amis depuis longtemps.

C'est une pollinisation accidentelle dans son espace de culture (un container modifié) qui est à l'origine des graines que nous avons reçues et dont nous avons tiré la Starbud.

Actuellement à Hortilab, nous travaillons à la production d'un batch de féminisées ainsi qu'à un backcross (BX) en régulières.

Source: http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php? ... 838&page=2
Trad DrStrangelove

Starbud is a clone selected by us from a seed line we recieved from a private grower from the mid west USA. The exact make up is a mystery.

After having grown out 100s of seeds and clones from the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Spain, Denmark, Canada and also the USA (and a few other countries as well) we knew the "Starbud" is a winner.
This was confirmed by the judges at the 420 Cup as well as the judges from the "Berkley Patients Group" at the 22nd HTCC.

Personally I would describe the taste of the Starbud as a bit hashy, the smell as a more subtle sweet dankness which still reeks and has that "wow" effect for most people who get a whiff.

Please be aware that the person we received the "seedline" from, by NO means is a private breeder but a private grower who has been supplying himself and a small group of friends for a long time.

An accidental pollination from an overlooked male in his room (actually a modified shipping container), resulted in the seeds, we received and selected the "Starbud" from.

Currently we at HortiLab are working on a new batch of feminized seeds of the award winning clone, as well as a regular BX.

[Flask]

Backcross en rég, ça sonne bien je trouve

Flask

[Sorcier]

La reg sans backcross.... ça devient du breeding et là y'a plus grand monde crois moi

dankness, c'est une expression pour dire que "la weed sent la psychoactivité d'une manière parfumée". On retrouve aussi l'expression dank, pour une bud qui cristallise bien... ça veut un peu tout dire quoi.