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OG Kush

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Yop les potos, je viens de me taper la recherche mais mis à part le fait que si je vais à LA je pourrais en fumer au distributeur je sais pas où trouver de la OG Kush :|
Alors si quelqu'un pouvait m'aider ça serait cool, notamment en me donnant le breeder :wink:

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OG Kush, c'est pas une souche qui tournait sur overgrow :idea:




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Salut poto fabo ;)

L' OG Kush est un "clone only", comme la Bubba Kush par exemple.

Tu ne trouveras donc hélas pas de graines ou de breeder pour cette variété.

La génétique de l' OG Kush serait la suivante : [Chemdawg x (lemon thai x old world pak. kush)], quoique d'autres pensent plutôt qu'il s'agit d'un S1 du Chemdawg.

Tu trouveras plein d'infos sur icmag, par exemple ici :

LA'S OG KUSH

ou ici :

the KUSH thread

et pour l'histoire du CHEMDAWG, ça se trouve ici :

Chemdawg 101
Brief background:

At a Grateful Dead show at Deer Creek Amphitheatre, 'joebrand' (aka 'wonkanobe') and 'pbud' met 'chemdog' and sold him an ounce of very high quality pot for $500. joe and chemdog exchanged numbers and they later arranged for two ounces to be shipped to chemdog on the east coast. According to chemdog, one ounce was seedless and the other had 13 seeds.

In ’91, chemdog popped the first 4 seeds. From these seeds, one male was found and disposed of (chemdog was young, you can’t blame him). The 3 females were labeled ‘chemdawg’ (now ’91 chemdawg), ‘chemdawg a’ (now chemdawg’s sister), and ‘chemdawg b’. In '01, chemdog and his girlfriend attempted to germ 3 more seeds, labeled ‘c’, ‘d’, and ‘e’. the ‘e’ seed never germinated, ‘c’ turned out to be junk (according to chemdog), and chemdawg ‘d’ was the keeper. In '06, 'chemdog' and 'joebrand' reunited and joe was given 4 of the last 6 beans: Chemdawg phenos 1-4, '4' being the chosen keeper. Joe thought the '4' was the best representation of the original and thus dubbed it the 'reunion pheno'. Chemdog still has two seeds left in his stash.

Chemdawg Crosses:
'OG Kush' (the original cut) came from an s1 from in a bag of '91 Chemdawg in the Lake Tahoe area in 1996.
• 'Sour Diesel' aka ECSD came from an accidental cross of ('91 Chemdawg x Mass Super Skunk/NL)x DNL after the DNL hermed and seeded the room. The DNL's lineage is NL/Shiva x Hawaiian.
• Original Diesel' (also known as Diesel #1, Headband, Daywrecker Diesel, Underdawg) came from a cross of '91 Chemdawg x (Mass Super Skunk x Sensi's Northern Lights) done by a guy known as ‘weasel’.

• 'chemdog' and friends made several crosses that are held closely by a small group of friends and acquaintances. Among them are:

1. Super Snowdawg (Bubble Chem x [Super skunk x Oregon Sno])
2. Giesel (Chem D x Mass Super Skunk)
3. Bubble Chem (Chemdawg’s Sister x Sag's Bubbleberry)
4. Dawg Daze aka ChemHaze (Chem D x ’93 Sensi's NL#5/Haze)
5. Chemdawg D x Pbud (another old-school Colorado strain)

JJ-NYC has been working on a Chemdawg D-based seed line for several years now. He started by crossing Chemdawg D to Sensi's Afghani after thoroughly testing both Sensi's Afghani and Sensi's Hindu Kush to determine which was more stable and would be better for the initial cross. JJ then did a backcross, known as "Double Dawg." Several phenos of this circulate and several people still have beans. JJ's latest work to the line is a second backcross known as "Tres Dawg" which is just starting to get tested.

Rezdog of Reservoir Seeds recently released several Chemdawg crosses as part of his 'Trinity' charity auctions. The crosses included Chemdawg D x Sensi's Hindu Kush and Snowdawg x Sensi's Hindu Kush, Chemdawg D x Sour Diesel IBL, Snowdawg x Sour Diesel IBL, ChemHaze x Sour Diesel IBL and Giesel x Sour Diesel IBL.

PS : Essaye de nous ramener le clone de LA !! :petard:

fabotanik

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Merci poto pour toutes ces infos mais par contre je n'ai pas de vol prévu pour LA pour l'instant :lol:

Bon bah tant pis, si je veut de la weed qui s'en rapproche, on dirait que je vais devoir le rabattre sur de la mk-ultra :roll:

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OG kush est en france.

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c'est ske jallais te dire fabo ,c'est la mk ultra , jen ais cultiver sur ma derniere cession
ca envoie le pater !!!
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plus de in...
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OLYMPIQUE VOLCANO..!

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fabotanik, faudra attendre ou voir du côté de Krytonite Seeds sur icmag & seedbay, ils sortent une version BX de OG Kush je pense, en graines pas trop chères mais ça devrait partir vite dès que ça va sortir .....http://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65556
edit elles sont en ventes maintenant 285 $ lol http://www.seedbay.com/index.php?a=1005&b=96&c=

de source sûre , la San Fernando Valley OG Kush aka "SFV OG Kush", un des clones de la série OG Kush , devrait arriver... wait and see ... comme d'hab ...

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Chemdawg 101:

Lors d'un concert de "Grateful Dead" à l'amphitheatre de "Deer Creek" (USA), joebrand (aka "wonkanobe") et p.bud ont rencontrer chemdog et lui ont vendu une once (1oz=28grs environs) d'herbe de trés haute qualité à 500$. Joe et
chemdog ont echanger leurs numéros et se sont arranger plus tard pour deux onces devant être envoyées à chemdog sur la côte-est des Etats-Unis.
D'aprés chemdog, une once était non-grainée, et la deuxième contenait 13 graines.

En 1991, chemdog a fait germer les 4 premières graines. De ces graines, un mâle a été trouver et détruit (chemdog était jeune, on ne peux pas lui en vouloir).
Les trois femelles ont été appellées "chemdawg" (maintenant "91'chemdawg"),"chemdawg a" (maintenant "chemdawg's sister") et "chemdawg b".
En 2001, chemdog et sa compagne ont essayer de faire germer 3 graines supplémentaires, nommées "c", "d" et "e". La graine "e" n'a jamais germer, la "c" a donner une plante sans interêt (selon chemdog) et la "d" était la bombe.
En 2006 chemdog et joebrand se sont réunis et joe s'est vu offrir 4 des 6 dernières graines: chemdawg phéno 1-4, "4" étant le gagnant choisit.
Joe a trouver que la "4" était la meilleure représentation de l'originale que l'on retrouves doublement dans ce "reunion-pheno".
Chemdog à toujours 2 graines dans sa reserve personnelle...

Chemdawd: hybrids et croisements:

- OG KUSH (le clone original) provient d'une graine "selfée" (S1) trouvée dans un
pochon de 91'chemdawg dans la région du Lac Tahoe (USA)en 1996.(> thaoe cut)

- SOUR DIESEL aka ECSD vient d'un croisement accidentel de
('91chemdawg x Massachusset Super Skunk / NL) x DNL aprés que la DNL ait
tourner hermaphrodite et donc polléniser la salle de culture. Le lignage de la DNL
est NL/Shiva x Hawaïïan.

- ORIGINAL DIESEL (aussi connue sous les noms: diesel#1, headband, daywrecker diesel,
Underdawg) vient d'un croisement de '91 chamdawg x (Mass Super Skunk x sensi's NL)
réalisé par un certains "weasel".

- Chemdog et ces amis ont fait quelques croisements qui sont cultivée par un
petit groupe d'amis et bonnes connaissances:

1. Super Snowdawg (Bubble Chem x [SuperSkunk x Oregon sno])
2. Giesel (Chem D x Mass Super Skunk)
3. Bubble Chem (Chemdawg's sister x Sargamatha's Blueberry)
4. Dawg Daze aka Chemhaze ( Chem D x '93 sensi NL#5/Haze)
5. Chemdawg D x Pbud (une autre variété old-school du colorado)

JJ-NYC (un membre du forum ICmag) travaille sur une ligne de graines basée sur la "Chemdawg-D"
depuis de nombreuses années maintenant. Il a commencer par croiser la chemdawg-d avec un mâle
Afghan de chez sensi seeds aprés avoir tester leur "Hindu Kush" et "Aghani#1" afin de
déterminer lequel est le plus stable et serait le meilleur pour le croisement. Ensuite JJ à fait un
backcross (rétrocroisement), connu comme "double dawg". De nombreux phénotypes de ce croisement
circule et de nombreuses personnes ont encor des graines.
Le dernier travail de JJ sur cette lignée est un second backcross connu comme "Tres Dawg" qui
commence juste à être tester.

Rezdog de Reservoir seeds à récemment réaliser de nombreus croisements à base de Chemdawg
comme une partie de ces ventes dont le profit est destiner à un projet personnel.
Ces croisements comptent: "Chemdawg-D x Sensi seeds Hindu Kush" et "Snwodawg x Hindu kush",
"Chemdawg-D x Sour Diesel ibl", "Snwodawg x Sour diesel ibl", "ChemHaze x Sour Diesel ibl" et
"Giesel x Sour Diesel ibl".
pour ceux qui voulait une traduction du post de chemdogImage

Nature

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Salut, j'adore les strain stories :lool: :mrgreen:

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Sérieusement j'ai du mal a croire leur histoires, mais peut etre que je me trompe ^^

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je teste actuellement la "Chemdawg-D x Sour Diesel ibl" plus communement appellé "REZ-Chemdog double D"...
Taux de germination excellent: 100%, quelque chose d'apparement TRES indica avec des internaudes tres courts...
je vous mets des tofs des que possible
Regle N°1:rester courtois et garder son calme
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Vibes...
En cours: Fraise, bubba kush pre98 x DPD f2, Chemdog double D, Blue Widow, Zamal fil rouge , Red lebanese.
En cours de breed: Bombe x Fraise, Mazar x Fraise , Fraise x ERSB f2 , Mazar*Zei x Fraise, Bombe feminisée.
Prochainement: Bombe x DPD f2 , Bombe x Green deviL , Eleda feminisée...

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Nature a écrit :Salut, j'adore les strain stories :lool: :mrgreen:

edit;
Sérieusement j'ai du mal a croire leur histoires, mais peut etre que je me trompe ^^
Mais carremment que ca fait partie du folklore, c'est trop bon !

En ce moment, je raconte à mon pote les histoires des weeds qu'il a fumé : style la NewYork, la G13 ou autre truc de barré de la face ! !!

Genre, ça lui met encore plus la race :petard: :petard: mais j'adore vraiment aussi, même les histoires de landrace ca déboite . . .

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C'est l'histoire de la beu secrete une boutz a ete prise par un adepte de la secte secrete des foskifo juste avant que la grotte qui leur servait de sanctuaire ne s'effondre;

blahh blahh bah y a bien un peu de vérité aussi mais dur de le verifier.....

leMarcellllllll

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Je crois que la pire histoire, c'est quand même celle du G13 :mrgreen:

En voici une version bien connue :
G13 History

The G-13 clone was discovered by a guy named Sandy Wienstien. A founding member of Sacred Seeds, Breeder of Early Girl, He also discovered the Bay Area Durban Poison clone (the same clone All dutch DP is based on). During the mid 70's Sandy W and members of the Bay Area (SK#1) group were working in cooperation on some of their afgans. A couple of the plants intro'd early into both programs brought a near fatal vunerabilty to grey mold. Both programs had to backtrack while new afgans were found to replace the culled plants, as well as beginig an extensive tourure testing program for the remaning stock.

Sandy had a group of friends, growers who lived in his area (S.Ark-N Miss) One of these friends was a grower, and first year botany student who had,
by shear accident, landed a job working with Carlton Turner , who ran the US gov. pot program @ U of Miss. Sandy's friends job? using the early,rather primitive tests they had at the time to test Afganica plants for THC level! As Sandy's Early Girl program in the MW and the Skunk#1 people in Cali were on a desperate search for Afganicas. Sandy enlisted his friend to send him anything "interesting". Sandy's friend sent him 23 plants in all, and to differetiate these from his regular Afgani stock, which he labeled A1, A2 etc., Sandy designated his "government" plants G1-23.

None of these were used in any Sacred Seeds breeding program. Sandy saved only a very few of these G clones, among these was G-13. He was to busy and never had a chance to do anything with it, so it stayed on the shelf. But he saved it knowing it was a special plant, a "sport". In its pure form it was apparently not very pleasant smoke, tasting like lawn clippings, soaked in a mixture of urine and feces (fecal flavors are common in pure afganicas) with a lovelly aftertaste of burning tires. The shear power could not be denied however and that's what made the strain's rep.

As I sayed, G-13 was a breeders plant, (see MJ Botony p70) for a description of a sport but basically it's a plant that shows benificial mutations which can be passed down to the next gen. In the case of G-13 it was a scraglly plant with lowish yields, but it had the desirable trait of massive resin production. So much so, that if you let it go to long it could supposedly choke itself. Some sativas can do this, what Shanti calls the "Widow" sport is an example, but it's very rare in an indica. It was during Nevil's 83/84 collection trips to the US that he aquired, from Sandy W the only G-13 cuttings to ever leave Sandy's garden. Nevil returned to Holland and made three crosses with G-13 @ the Seed Bank. G-13x Haze (in catolog only 1 yr, discontinued, no extent P1's) G-13x Hashplant (discontinued, currently Sensi Seeds: mr nice) G-13x Skunk#1 (last and, according to Nevil, the best of the G crosses. Nev gave Shanti the last of this stock. Shanti, after suffering alarmingly low germ rates initially from the 20 year old seeds, put them though a number of breeding cycles and you all lucky bastarts are beta testing the results.)

Sandy Wienstein passed away in 1987. If you have the '88 edition of Mel's Indoor Guide, then you have Mel's wonderfull euligy to his friend.(Mel was part of the upstate NY group, which was a sattelitte of Sandy's midwest group. Mel and Co. were not breeders but the ran beta grows for Sandy's Early Girl proj. Just look pic's captioned Durban poison x Afgani in upstate NY from anyof mel's books.) For those who don't have this vintage edition, just turn your copy of Mel's Deluxe MJ grow guide to the back cover. The guy in the red pendelton shirt and the long hair and shades, Thats Sandy. You owe him more than you know

P.S. No more than a few weeks after Sandy's death in 1987, all of Nevil's G-13 cuttings went down, including safety clones he had kept in remote places. The plants just wilted and died, despite the best efforts made to save them. No cause was ever found As for the f2s well they cant be f2s mate becouse if you or eny one researchet things ( just stateing facts nothing personal clips as your a good guy and you know i respect you) people whould know that the last ever x of the G13 clone Nevile had ( the only g13 clone in the industry at that ) the g13/sk seeds shanti was given were f1s as they came from Nevile who used the sk male over the G13 clone before it was lost ( Sed to be the best X useing the G13 of all neviles g13 hybreeds as it exprest itself best in this x sed by nevile )so that makes what ever people are makeing and passing around far from f2s and with out knowing what to select for there takeing the line further from what it should be so maybe why there getting more sativa phinos in there generations wich are not f2s mate .

I am only talking for my self here i would never speek for shanti and as i do research things and its all there for people to work out also for them selfs if they wont to mate but im thinking few did becouse if people did they would know shanti selected us the testers to give an honest report be it good or bad on the test strains and as a collective type group help each other and shanti with these strains like they do with flowers like rose clubs or even people working together to save old wold fruiet and veggys who are scated around the world yet work together as a collective group. jesse turner still shared cuts with others[canadian,univerity of washington,ohio and cple others] but there is only one g13 and nevil owns it .now the chance to be assosiated with others on the net very slim and doubtfull with the info nom has posted clears alot up .before ya speak read and investigate i put plenty of information up in breeding forum on the closed post to support what ive said. Nom de fleur my sentiments are the same as muggles as 20 plus years here growing and im a 3rd generational my family has been in growing since before the 40's .i cant wait to enjoy and try shanti's and nevils good works till then enjoy and ill chat ya later clips more info to be considered canada's conection to miss research Did you have a relationship with Dr. Carlton Turner?s research group at the University of Mississippi?

Indeed we had cordial relationships with Dr. Turner and the Mississippi group for many years, exchanging information and keeping each other abreast of developments. As you know, after his work on Cannabis Dr. Turner went on to occupy the prestigious position of Domestic Policy Advisor to the president of the US. We used a Mexican strain supplied by Dr. Turner to grow a large supply of standardized medicinal marihuana in Ottawa for Canadian use. Climatic conditions in Mississippi and Canada are of course different - a longer, hotter, drier situation in Mississippi, and this resulted in the plants in Mississippi tending to be taller, with much more leaf fall, leaving the remaining younger leaves with higher THC content on the plants. Nevertheless, morphological and chemical characteristics tended to be comparable between the two Who directed that the Agriculture Canada Ottawa Cannabis farm be started and what was your initial mandate?

As noted above, cultivation of Cannabis was initiated by two Canadian federal ministries, Health Canada and AAFC, for the purpose of clarifying a number of botanical issues, and to grow a standard supply of medicinal marihuana. A 3 acre plot was established in 1971 in the main agricultural research area in Ottawa, known as the Central Experimental Farm, where both high-THC and low-THC forms were cultivated. This was in a rather open location, and elaborate security measures proved necessary. After 1971, it was decided to conduct cultivation in Ottawa only in more secure indoor areas, and this lasted until 1979. Outside of Ottawa, hemp has occasionally been grown outdoors at various AAFC stations across Canada in recent years, but currently cultivation is entirely on the private property of cooperating entrepreneurs. I am cooperating in research on hemp, both in the field and greenhouse, but the research sites are not in Ottawa. Our current mandate is to assist the private sector in conducting commercially oriented research on low-THC Cannabis, i.e. industrial hemp.

How did you obtain seeds for the Ottawa Cannabis farm? Curiously, it was easier to obtain seeds of Cannabis for research purposes in the early 1970s than it is today, and by 1971 I had accumulated in excess of 400 different stocks of seeds. The United States Department of Agriculture supplied dozens of samples, but today informs inquirers that it has none. Similarly it is also increasingly difficult today to obtain hemp seeds from some other seed banks. In my early research I concentrated on means of distinguishing drug and non-drug strains, and numerous police forces around the world cooperated in supplying seeds from confiscations. Today the emphasis is on non-drug strains, and it is necessary to have a reasonable indication that imported seeds are non-drug. And of course, with the recent realization that hemp is an extremely promising crop for which seed collections are critical for future breeding, many private seed collections are available only on a cooperative developmental basis. I was not aware of the Canada connect to Turners proj. BTW according to the way I heard the story, the G plants were not the result of a U of Miss breeding program but point of origin P1 afgans bing tested for later use. Sandy's buddy's job was to make the most crude tets for THC level, he fownd this particular wierdo that tested off the chart. e passed it on to his friend and the rest is history. I don't claim anything I state here as absolute fact, in fact part of the reason I posted this here was to try and spark exactly this kind of conversation, one I think is long overdue. I very much hope that you all can/will check me on the facts and if anybody has any additional info on any matter related to these old lines, please feel free to add, even if only to debunk some myth that "I" might without knowing it, be carrying forward . As far as this tale is concerned, there are three people still alive and in the public domain so to speak, who can confirm or deny any or all parts of this post Those being: Mel Frank, Who was Sandy's close friend. Nevil who also met him personaly. and of course our own Shantibaba, in whom Nevil has entrusted to steward the last remains of this plant into the future. Shanti also has dir. access to both Nev and Mel F I was no more than a fring dweller on the edges of this seen back then. Barely a grower and certainly no breeder. Just a snotnosed skate grommet who was enlisted by a friend's older brother to assist with harvest and trim. a year or so later , when my friends and I started to drop some seeds in the ground it was this guy who mentored us.

We would later find out that said older bro was himself being mentored by an even older grower who had close enough connections to the Sacred Seeds bunch to be "on the list". That is to say, this guy was one of probobly less than 1000 people total who ever was sent the Sacred Seeds catolog of seeds(a pic of the '81 list is in 25 yrs of HT p.85)It was from these two that I first heard these story's and over the years , articales published in the varios pot rags of the day, especially those my either Mel or Connissuer R tended to confirm the story and also kill the odd myth or campfire story. I was close enough not just to ctch a contact high, but to sample things that most people only get to read about. Only now, in hindsight do I realize just how lucky I was to simply be born in the right place at the right time and know the right people. My only porpose here is to both share and gain information for the bettrment of the whole community. So if nothing else, I'm glad I got some folks talking.
flying a écrit :de source sûre , la San Fernando Valley OG Kush aka "SFV OG Kush", un des clones de la série OG Kush , devrait arriver... wait and see ... comme d'hab ...
Flying, aurais tu des news à ce sujet ? :D
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Steven.Seagal

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rahhh non je peux pas y en a trop :lol: :lol:

fabotanik

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Oui flying si tu as les news dont tu m'a parlé ça m'intéresse aussi :wink: :D

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